Matt and Jonathan did an interview for Entertainment Weekly’s podcast The Awardist recently and discussed Fellow Travelers. They talked about the sex scenes, the episode that Matt dreaded the most, and much more!
Yes, Matt Bomer and Jonathan Bailey’s sex scenes in Fellow Travelers consumed social media for a couple months during the limited series’ run on Showtime. But the power dynamic on display wasn’t just for sensationalism; it served a bigger purpose in the journey of the two closeted men.
They are also scenes that would’ve been difficult to put on screen just a decade ago, and the characters — Bomer’s State Department official Hawk Fuller and Bailey’s congressional staffer Tim Laughlin — very likely would’ve been played by straight men.
“I don’t even know if I would have seen the script for it 10 years ago,” Bomer says, laughing while seated next to his costar during a chat with EW’s Awardist podcast. But the job was made easier, and “so much of my cynicism was obliterated,” he says, thanks to the support of the network as well as production company Fremantle. “From the beginning, [they] were giving us notes that weren’t constricting at all. They were actually really liberating,” the Emmy nominee explains. “They were saying, ‘No, go farther. Embarrass yourself. Go too far. Try to scare us. Try to see how far you can push it.’ And that kind of permission, I felt, even bled into the acting work on set because it came from the people who were in power who could make those decisions.”
Bailey, also Emmy-nominated for her work in the series, is quick to express his gratitude for the “brilliant gay stories” starring straight actors that have come before — “I would never for a second wish that I hadn’t seen Brokeback Mountain or Gus Van Sant’s Milk and Cate Blanchett playing Carol,” he says — as well as even having the opportunity to star in Fellow Travelers.
“Had this been made five, 10 years ago, I completely believe that I would have been able to play a straight lead before I would have been able to play gay. And that’s kind of wild,” acknowledging the changing tides in the industry. But he also notes, “The majority of awards go to straight actors playing gay because there’s this sense that that means that they’re somehow brave or that they’re mixing it up. And there is a bruise that, looking back now, there’s a very real — and has been — sense that there aren’t out gay men playing their experience,” he says. “These characters, of course they’re rich, of course they’re complicated, of course they’re exactly the sort of stories that you’d want to tell because it’s so complicated, so much pain, and there’s so much suffering, there’s much resilience and there’s much spirit in it.”
That pain is on display throughout much of the series’ eight episodes as they contend with McCarthyism and restrictive laws against homosexuality. But in particular for Bomer, it was episode 7, “White Nights,” that he admits he was dreading the most. After a family tragedy leaves Hawk devastated, he flees to Fire Island, where his abuse of alcohol and drugs rightfully worries Tim, who travels there to find and hopefully help him.
Bomer says his nerves were routed in the big emotion switch Hawk makes during a sexual escape. “I was gonna have to go from a really drug-fueled kind of bacchanalian love scene that’s really dark into the turning point for the character,” he explains. “He has this tragic secret that he’s trying to bury that is suddenly exposed in front of his face. And as Hawkins is want to do, when it’s exposed, he attacks. And then to go from that to being able to rely on my scene partner and fall into the complete vulnerability of the character for the first time — and we didn’t film those things separately, it was all one take — I knew that was going to be a scary day.”
For everything Bailey experienced in the film, including the fear he had “of playing the last scenes” as Tim dies from complications of AIDS, it was a real-life scenario that reminded the actor of the horrors that queer people still experience. While in Washington D.C. for a Human Rights Campaign event in October 2023 prior to the launch of the series, Bailey, who was wearing an HRC hat, says a man in a coffee shop removed it from his head and threw it to the ground, physically threatening him before leaving when a woman started filming with her cellphone.
“It was really overwhelming and upsetting,” Bailey recalls, noting the contrast between the “electric fervor” of the previous night’s celebratory event. “I woke up the next day and I honestly felt like I was in a sort of montage of a B-movie because I was like, the sun was out and I was like, this is it, this is it, I get it, I get what this is about, I can see what my platform is and I can see how I can use this. [And I] went into a coffee shop and then someone threatens you and says, ‘Get out of my country, you f—ing queer. If you don’t do that, I’ll shoot you.'”
Within a week, he called Jonathan Anderson, creative director of luxury brand Loewe, to create the Drink Your Milk t-shirt — a line from Fellow Travelers — to raise money for oppressed LGBTQ+ people around the world via Bailey’s new foundation, the Shameless Fund.
“It was the most activating thing that possibly could have happened,” Bailey says now, as Bomer wipes tears starting to well in his eyes. “There’s a love letter I should write to the man from Pennsylvania.”
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